Now I started doing some research as of late on forensic sketches, etc., and in looking for a forensic Etch-a-Sketch I came across the Identi-Kit and low and behold on the front cover of the Identi-Kit Manual: System of Modern Visual Identification, Lesson Two there was The Man in the Blue Truck peering at me with his unmistakable helmet hair and sporting a large mustache, aka., a Magnum PIer. This podcast is an excellent deep dive into a little known cold case in small town America. Autopsy reports say the girls were both shot in the heads with a shotgun and both died instantly. He has written, produced and directed (and occasionally acted in) over a dozen plays, most of them in the Horror and Crime genres. I told him to go for it.. Talk to Jack, Hicks would say. The driver then floored it, wheels squealing defiantly, and managed to finally break free from its grip. It had been Adam that the blood had trickled upon, hitting his hat first, making him look up, and then feeling the thick cold fluid sprinkling his face then sliding down to his neatly buttoned shirt. Anytime there are dogman reports in areas known for Bigfoot sightings, one has to wonder if the dogmen are misidentified Bigfoot creatures (if, indeed, Bigfoot exists [and is a flesh-and-blood-animal]). Visit the Land Between the Lakes planetarium page here to see the current schedule. Joe apparently was an avid rider of dirt bikes, with which he would go tearing about over forest trails in the Land Between the Lakes, and on this day he was out as usual as Jan and her other cousin sat outside. On September 17th, 1980, the half sisters disappeared from their hometown of Dover, Tennessee. Biology, nature, and cryptozoology still remain Brent Swancers first intellectual loves. I have published some things I know about the baffling case, but I think the time has come for me to write more. Will it be solved? Land Between the Lakes is a beautiful piece of protected land in Kentucky and Tennessee. Thats the story. No one reported seeing the girls get into the blue truck, a 1980 newspaper report said. Around 3 p.m. on Wednesday, Sept. 17, 1980, Carla and Vickie walked from their home on U.S. 79 West of Dover to the nearby Furnace Restaurant/Store. According to Jan, this report never made it into the news or media, and was covered up by the local government as it was seen as a threat to the tourism industry if word of such a mysteriously gruesome incident got out. . I have nine different theories. Within a few days of the girls being missing, Gordon said authorities told her and other family members the girls had been seen in Nashville in a soup line.. A lot of them know every nook and cranny. He didnt because I didnt. My source said it was done on an Etch-a-Sketch and I knew he did not mean that, but nevertheless, I got the clue. A 35thanniversary memorial vigil and a musical celebration of life will be held Saturday, Oct. 3 from 3-7:35 p.m. at the Stewart County Visitors Center for Carla and Vickie. Or is it all balderdash? One man said it jumped out of one of the horse stalls one evening while he was putting up some animals. A 35thanniversary memorial vigil and a musical celebration of life will be held Saturday, Oct. 3 from 3-7:35 p.m. at the Stewart County Visitors Center for Carla and Vickie. They have shown respect for the victims of the crime and their families as well as they are transparent with the information they have and will correct the information they need to if any of them were incorrect. I have often said this case is like trying to hold water tightly in your hands. I do think initially the investigation was possibly on the right track. Either way, the story itself is pretty creepy. 04 Explore Settler's Life at the Homeplace 1850s Working Farm Have you ever wondered what life was like on the frontier in the 1800s? MORTUI VELOCES SUNT! An in depth interview with Carla & Vickies mom, Margie Nell. I actually have nine different theories. A couple witnesses a dogman around hotel California, an abandon house. The harder you grasp, the more it slips away. The investigation has been in the hands of the TBI and the sheriffs department from the outset. The natives cherish their heritage and don't look kindly upon those who disrespect it. Besides its modern designation as a recreation area, encompassing 170,000 acres of forest, over 300 miles of shoreline, and hundreds of miles of hiking trials, the area has also long been plagued by a variety of high strangeness such as roving phantoms, Indian curses, and mysterious lights, but perhaps the most bizarre is the history of strange tales of a bizarre, bipedal creature which prowls the landscape here and has been called the The Beast Between the Rivers as well as the Beast of the Land Between the Lakes.. Below is a blurb I wrote on Facebook about the murders. This is the fourth in a series of stories on this case that will run in The local publication prior to the Oct. 3 vigil. The acoustic musical celebration of life will be from 3-7 p.m. That person who allegedly had seen them was supposed to have been a reliable witness. This particular man said he 'wet his overalls' during the episode. Some say this is not significant. The summer of 1980 may have been the zenith of raucous behavior in Dover. In Kentucky there is a nature preserve called, The Land Between the Lakes. I believe you to be 100% correct. Admission is $6 for anyone age 13 and up, $3.50 for anyone between 5-12, and free for anyone 4 and under. No donations are being solicited. Not long after this, something could be heard moving and crashing through the surrounding brush, snorting and sniffing the whole time, as if circling the campsite. The family of Carla and Vickie say they never told law enforcement they believed the girls had run away. The content and story is amazing. Then, suddenly, before the bodies of the girls were found three weeks after they went missing, information reported initially began to change. Without any evidence, coverage in the news, or known documentation of any kind, it is impossible to substantiate any of this, and it remains merely another tantalizing yet ultimately inconclusive witness account. . Now, look at the sketches on the left that ran in the Paris Post Intelligencer fairly soon after the bodies of the girls were discovered. They would do anything to save themself. If that is so, then I say to those making the claims: You yourself go and testify directly to the Stewart County, Tennessee Grand Jury and present your evidence and get an indictment. The identity of the man in the blue pickup truck is unknown. I had been cordially invited to observe Ferrier interview for his package and at the wrapup of is interviews he asked me, Do you have any questions? I said, Yes, are you going to give him a copy of the sketch? I asked the da. Theres a sketch. Then in 1997 John Vinson said they bought cigarettes. U.S. Forest Service Public Affairs Specialist Carlin Lewis said officials have never seen credible evidence of the Beasts existence., We have no evidence, records, documentation of any validated sightings of the Beast. The multi-award winning progressive Bluegrass Band Yankee/Dixie from Fairview/Dover performed. I ran into this investigator a few years ago. I say it could be important. That is their prerogative. Original music and songs, especially from children and teens, are encouraged. In ways it more closely resembles the Man in the Magnum PI Mustache sketch. I have done a very little bit of research on Identi-Kit sketches and research tends to indicate that these sketches appear to prevent witnesses from more readily identifying potential suspects than it does in helping in identification. Learn how your comment data is processed. His spirit is said to still walk the woods in search of revenge. For decades I have pursued leads. Murder At Land Between The Lakes on Apple Podcasts 35 episodes On September 17th, 1980, two sisters, Carla Atkins & Vickie Stout, went missing from the small town of Dover, Tennessee. While many tourists will come away with stories of the picturesque landscape, the LBL is also known for much darker reasons. Keep up the great work. There was known alcohol consumption and illegal drug activity around the girls when they lived behind the old Dover Dairy Dip. There are several theories as to who, how and why Carla Atkins and her sister Vickie Stout were murdered. Area Manager: (270) 924-2000 or visit www.landbetweenthelakes.us. Copyright 2022 Apple Inc. All rights reserved. Perhaps the most often-cited tale is that of a family that died at the hands of the beast. I said, then you really dont know what you are talking about, do you? around the Land Between the Lakes area. Carla had some medication she had to take daily and she hadnt taken that with her.. However these two ladies have a sincere desire to help the family with their help healing closure they Deserve and Justice for the Girls. Murder in Land Between the Lakes, when it comes to these unsolved murders, is cloaked in mystery. The little girl had apparently been carried up the tree and leisurely eaten upon while carefully laid across a large tree branch. It was coming from above. Kentucky State Police investigated two incidents over the weekend at Land Between the Lakes. Admission is free. Ferrell is responsible for one of the worst home invasion murders in Florida history. This is one of the discrepancies I feel is significant. The Beast of Land Between the Lakes: First the Story, then the Facts Sometime in the late 70s or early 80s, the Young family was wiped out in an attack by the Beast, a "Dogman" or werewolf. None of them may be the correct one. The Beast of LBL is described by so-called eyewitnesses as resembling Bigfoot with wolfish characteristics and standing close to seven feet tall. Tennessee Valley Authority Police were notified and responded to the crime scene along with the Stewart County, Tenn., Sheriffs Department and the Tennessee Bureau of Investigation. The bodies of Carla and Vickie were found on the afternoon of Oct. 5, 1980 by two hikers in the Stewart County portion of the federal governments Land Between the Lakes. Land Between the Lakes. Gov. And judging by the kooky headli, As Ive mentioned in other posts and on social media, I spent the bulk of the wint, Unfortunately, there are no mammoths alive today. I dont. When settlers began to come to the region, they are said to have been plagued by some large predator which lurked in the shadows killing and maiming their livestock, with witnesses saying the culprit was a hairy, wolf-like beast on two legs which unleashed bloodcurdling howls and shrieks into the night. When the legend becomes fact, print the legend.. On occasions, a local singer/guitar player would entertain at the parties in the woods. ), https://lblus.com/2021/09/15/stories-about-clues-in-1980-lbl-lost-creek-child-murder-have-changed-over-time-land-between-the-lakes/. Join MU Plus+ and get exclusive shows and extensions & much more! They distract the dogman beast and are able to leave. Your email address will not be published. Their partially concealed bodies were found by two hikers walking along an old LBL logging road on the afternoon of Sunday, Oct. 5, 1980. Techniques of multiple use land management are employed to improve the area's forest and open lands and to provide food and shelter for wildlife. When the security light of the driveway turned on the startled creature was illuminated, and with the darkness melted away it went from a vague shadow figure to something that was very wolf-like in appearance, with large, black eyes. This lack of any concrete sources to follow up on makes it quite hard to corroborate any of this tale, making its veracity or truth uncertain. Carla and Vickies home was hidden from those at the Dairy Dip because of the nearby woods and by the large wooden, two-story B&M Furniture Store building nearby, which was originally the Dover High School. One of the key stories that I believe is significant has changed. Murder At Land Between The Lakes hosts a 3 part series podcast about the life and death of Carla Atkins & Vickie Stout. Is it an actual werewolf, as some have claimed, or a variation of the various dogman cryptids reported from all over the United States? The body is identified as being that of Vicky (sic.) Could it perhaps be some sort of specter or spirit, and this is why it leaves behind little to no physical evidence and is the reason for its outlandish appearance? Shortly after my wife and I began traveling the country full time in an RV, we stayed for several nights at Land Between the Lakes. I am an old school investigative reporter from the old days of real newspapers (or at least I was in the old days.) Why is that? At least one person was shot outside of a Walmart in the Town Center area Wednesday, police officials said. Love your channel, and thought you might be interested in this one with Halloween just around the corner. No new information! would be Charltons gruff response. There was known alcohol consumption and illegal drug activity around the girls when they lived behind the old Dover Dairy Dip. Reporters seeking the truth do not scare easily. After a search, they ended up finding the yound girls body, partially consumed, up in a tree. Land Between the Lakes is an inland peninsula formed then the Cumberland and Tennessee rivers were impounded, creating Kentucky Lake and Lake Barkley; one of the world's largest man-made bodies of water. They were killed with two shotgun blasts to the head. 18 days after they vanished, their bodies were discovered by two hikers, in a wooded area in the Stewart County portion of Land Between the Lakes National Recreation Area, considered federal land. Originally managed by the Tennessee Valley Authority, which had constructed dams to create the two lakes in this area, the recreation area was transferred to administration of the United States Forest Service. In anticipation of hearing the evidence of the principal witness for the C (I am convinced that neither the original sketch of the two age progressed sketches of the original would have been produced to Ferrier and soon after released to all media West, MIddle and East Tennessee, about the three sketches: 1980 version Identi-kit ; the 2000 sketch and the 2014 sketch that does seem to have the artists name on it. The family, visiting from Florida, was found torn to pieces in their RV. Things in this case do not add up and they never have. Mom kept insisting they did not run away, Gordon said. There have seemingly been quite a lot of alleged encounters with the Beast of the Land Between the Lakes even up into more modern times. Dark brown fur was found between the fingers of one of the victims; aiming the investigation towards the Dogman. I wont even go into the things I want to say about the age-progression sketches of the original Identi-Sketch. Were there killings that were covered up? Megan wasnt with the rest of her family in the RV, though, as her remains had been hauled up into a tree. They all had tales of 'someone's hound dog' getting killed, ripped apart limb from limb, 'someone's pig or cow or chicken' getting eaten, the mysterious footprints left in the mud, and the stench it left behind where ever it appeared. This very dramatic and impressively detailed report goes on to say that the air was then pierced by what sounded like the howl of a wolf, only with a nightmarish intensity that invoked a profoundly deep sense of heavy dread. The first incident was a vehicle accident on The Trace in LBL just before 5 a.m. Saturday. No. They were walking back down the hill to their home when they reportedly were seen talking with a man in a blue pickup truck. Murder in Land Between the Lakes: Sketches of Man in the Blue Truck ~ Witness or Suspect? We say goodbye to two of our own. That young male and vehicle do not fit the publicized description of the man in the blue truck. Breakthrough in Freezing Brings Cryogenics One Step Closer, A Strange UFO Attack Case from the 17th Century, The Strange Phenomenon of "Animal-Shaped Spirit Guardians", Cattle Mutilations: The Full Story of the FBI and a Creepy and Sinister Affair. Authorities at the time said they did not know if the man in the blue truck was a suspect or a witness. This is not the only information that has changed since it was first released. Witnesses claim it is something other than Bigfoot, so what could it be? There have seemingly been quite a lot of alleged encounters with the Beast of the Land Between the Lakes even up into more modern times. No one really knows, and it remains an unsettling case of what might or might not be something very strange indeed roaming about in the wilderness of the Land Between the Lakes. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/amelia-courtney8/message, Keven Keatts went missing from Bumpus Mills, Tennessee, August 27th, 2019. There in the campsite were the badly mutilated bodies of three of the four campers, a young couple and their child, with their corpses in an appalling state. Some think that the United States army set up the bunkers in an attempt to kill the creature. Im from middle Tennessee and never heard this story. J AUCKLAND, 1 eb. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/amelia-courtney8/message, Interview with Burton Staggs about the Baby Joe Case. More blood could be seen dripping on him. Who knows? The Stamp Duties Bill and Representation Bill will be committed next Tuesday. Cigarette Story and other information has Changed Over Time. I am so glad Amelia and Lainie are digging into the case and reviving it. THE MAREO TRIAL THIRD DAY'S PROCEEDINGS [ Per Press Association. September 17 marks the anniversary of the mysterious disappearance of murder victims Carla Sue Atkins, 14, and Vickie Lee Stout, 16. Along with the constant nighttime action at the Dairy Dip and in Dover, there were regular parties going on in the small wooded area around and at Carla and Vickies home, sources say. According to the native Shawnee tribe, this abomination was the spirit of a powerful shapeshifting shaman, and outsiders were frequently warned away from the area. Whats that quote from THE MAN WHO SHOT LIBERTY VALANCE? Local and area musicians of all skill levels were invited to bring their acoustic instruments and join in the acoustic musical celebration of life jam session. Why is that? To give a brief summary, as these cryptids seemed to get looked over a lot, Dogmen are allegedly a cryptozoological creature, much like Sasquatch that live deep in the wildneress. As others arrived they could see by the gleam of several flashlights that the cop was holding his hat in one hand and his light in the other. This comes from U.S. Forest Service Public Affairs Specialist Carlin Lewis: We have no evidence, records, documentation of any validated sightings of the Beast. LBLmurdervictims were initially listed as runaways, Family members of 1980murdervictims Carla Sue Atkins, 14, and Vickie Lee Stout, 16, were initially told by authorities the girls were considered runaways., We knew they didnt run away, said Patricia Gordon, sister to the girls. One of the most high-profile of all the unsolved murders in the Land Between the Lakes area is the 1980 double murder of sisters Carla Atkins, 14, and Vickie Stout, 16. Authorities found them dead and half-eaten inside their motorhome in the 1980s. This is the final conclusion to the investigation and research on the family deaths at the LBL on 7 Apr 1982. MondayFriday: Call or email WAYNE MILLER is the owner and creative director of EVIL CHEEZ PRODUCTIONS (www.evilcheezproductions.blogspot.com, www.facebook.com/evilcheezproductions), specializing in theatrical performances and haunted attractions. Not sure if the new ones have ever had dealings with a real reporter. The front hair flip is the same. Some of the first Europeans in the region were French trappers and hunters, who claimed that the forests were prowled by a massive beast, half-man and half-wolf, which would howl in the night and leave the mutilated carcasses of animals in its wake; a monstrous entity that was called the loup garou. The shade of the color of the blue truck an eyewitness allegedly saw in proximity to the girls the day they went missing as initially reported has changed over time. The Beast of the Land Between the Lakes (in Kentucky) is said to resemble a gigantic half man, half wolf that walks on two legs and has five-fingered human hands ending in vicious claws. The snout was long and the witness was very specific that it was much different in appearance than Bigfoot. Thank you for watching! Dover, Tennessee was one wild little town in 1980 when murder victims Carla Sue Atkins, 14, and Vickie Lee Stout, 16, lived in a mobile home right behind the old Dairy Dip. There was blood on his face, the front of his shirt and on the brim of his hat. This is exactly the sort of strange beast that is said to hunt the forests of a patch of wilderness in the U.S. states of Kentucky and Tennessee. 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